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Post subject: Security in TM
 Posted: Oct 10, 2006 - 10:50 PM
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Post subject: RE: Security in TM
Posted: Oct 10, 2006 - 11:42 PM
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Name diymek isleyanine dusunmedim?! birazajyk dusundirsen gowy bolardy?
Turkmen security barada name maslahat etdiniz? Muhacir kim? Name etmek planlarynyz/teklipleriniz bar?
Gorkezen sahypalarynada kop dusunmedim... (name maksat bilen gorkezenini)
Ar alalyn diyyan bolsan, biz terorist dal! 
Goramaly diyyan bolsan, Muhacir/TurkmenCyberHackersTeam diyilyan name ucin bukylyp gezyarler?
Don't use a silly, grandiose user ID or screen name.
The problem with screen names or handles deserves some amplification. Concealing your identity behind a handle is a juvenile and silly behavior characteristic of crackers, warez d00dz, and other lower life forms. Hackers don't do this; they're proud of what they do and want it associated with their real names. So if you have a handle, drop it. In the hacker culture it will only mark you as a loser. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Security in TM
Posted: Oct 11, 2006 - 12:51 AM
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Atamyrat wrote:
Name diymek isleyanine dusunmedim?! birazajyk dusundirsen gowy bolardy?
Turkmen security barada name maslahat etdiniz? Muhacir kim? Name etmek planlarynyz/teklipleriniz bar?
Gorkezen sahypalarynada kop dusunmedim... (name maksat bilen gorkezenini)
Ar alalyn diyyan bolsan, biz terorist dal!
Goramaly diyyan bolsan, Muhacir/TurkmenCyberHackersTeam diyilyan name ucin bukylyp gezyarler?
Don't use a silly, grandiose user ID or screen name.
The problem with screen names or handles deserves some amplification. Concealing your identity behind a handle is a juvenile and silly behavior characteristic of crackers, warez d00dz, and other lower life forms. Hackers don't do this; they're proud of what they do and want it associated with their real names. So if you have a handle, drop it. In the hacker culture it will only mark you as a loser.
Muhacir Sadece Turkmen Defacer. Valla Bukulyp Gezya mi ona tochno bilemok. Mena habarlaşyan. Sen bilen Habarlaşmasa Bukulup Gezilya Mi Ya  Borlay Dijek Bolyanym Ar Alaly Diyemok. Goraly Diyan. Bilmeyan Bolsa Webmasterlere Ögredeli. Bolmasa öz öziniz sql çokap hazır scriptte site guryp yörsen name peydasy bar?  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Security in TM
Posted: Oct 11, 2006 - 02:34 AM
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Muhacir Sadece Turkmen Defacer.
ee? Turkmen Defacer diyip guwanyp aydyanmy?
Sizi bilemok welin yone mena goldamok..
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Valla Bukulyp Gezya mi ona tochno bilemok.
Onda bilip goyay (cyberspaceda) bukylyp gezyanini... Hany nireden mail adresini tapyp bolyarmy? yada doly adyny?
Name ucin ozi gelip turkmenler ucin peydaly pikirlerini yazip bilenok? Sen oz "hakyky" mail adresini berip bilyanmi?
(bu temanin adi Security in TM we gurrun dasina kop cikmasak gowy bolar...)
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Mena habarlaşyan. Sen bilen Habarlaşmasa Bukulup Gezilya Mi
no comments! azajyk pikirlenip yazsan gowy bolardy...
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Goraly Diyan. Bilmeyan Bolsa Webmasterlere Ögredeli.
bu yerdakiler name islap yorendirler oydyardin?
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Bolmasa öz öziniz sql çokap hazır scriptte site guryp yörsen name peydasy bar?
eerghh! bolyarda... aytmaga zat kop yone su wagt 1 sozleme jemlayin. "tayyar skriptleri ulanip sahypa deface edip yorendena peydaly!"
gowusy "how to become a hacker?" diyip tema bardyr su forumda, soni okamagy maslahat beryarin... |
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Posted: Oct 11, 2006 - 03:01 AM
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bu yerdakiler name islap yorendirler oydyardin?
Name?
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tayyar skriptleri ulanip sahypa deface edip yorendena peydaly!
Atamyratjan dine deface bolmaya www.milw0rm.com Gir Sana Zahmet. |
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Posted: Oct 11, 2006 - 03:32 AM
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ol linki bermeli daldin...
1. bu yerde ony bilmeyan yok bolaymasa
2. Biz Sckript kiddie dal!
Ol yerdaki programmalara exploit diyilyar we olaryn nahili isleysine dusunman ulanyan "haker"lere bolsa skript kiddie diyilyar
yagny, cagajyk yali bir zat.
ozune gownu yetyanler exploit yazyar we halka cikaryar. Cagalar hem olary ulanyp "hacked by supermuperhacker" diyip yazip cikyarlar!
Gowusy exploitler bilen nirani nadip bilerkam diyip yormande otyryp bir dil yada tehnalogiya owrenseniz, yada ozuniz bir zatlar yasamaga
synanssanyz has peydaly bolar...
yalnisyanmi? |
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Posted: Oct 11, 2006 - 11:39 PM
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Dosutum Gep Security Barada Gidya. Bizem Abroad Tans Etmage Gaydamzok.
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bu yerdakiler name islap yorendirler oydyardin?
Name?
Siz oz serverinizi yönekey ddosdan gorap bilenzoga. Ya yalan my? |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2006 - 12:38 AM
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Gadyrly **mc**,
Tema daşyna gowy çykdyňyz. Bu ýerik bir teklip bilen geldiňiz we bize "siz näme işleýäňiz?" diýip soramaga başladyňyz.
Sen bize teklibiňi açyk şekilde aýt. Goramaly?! Nädip goramaly? Näme maslahat berýäň? Bizden näme etmegimize garaşýarsyň?
beren linkinden exploitleri alyp sahyapalara garşy barlap görmek, açyk bar bolsa web mastere habar bermekmi?
Egerde sistema public available exlpoitlere garşy açyk bolsa, günäniň hemmesi webmaster/hosting firmada.
Patch etmäge ýaltanýan bolsalar skript kiddielerden almytlaryny alarlar...
Egerde Türkmenleriň özleriniň ýazan kodlaryny test etmek bolsa, men bar we elimden gelen kömegi edip gelýän...
(sana.name, tmhits.com, mekdep.com mysal bolyp biler)
ýenede bir zat, security barada gürrüň etjek bolsak etnek köp zat öwrenmeli...
Sen Linux ýükläp gördüňmi? PHP-de skriptjik yazdynmy? MySql baglanyp gördüňmi? JavaScript bilýäňmi?
SQL ulanyp gördüňmi? Apache conf fayllaryny oýnadynmy? TCP/IP nähili işleýänini düşüňýäňmi?
DNS näme? nähili işleýär? HTTP barada näme bilýäň? (adynyň doly acilimndan başga! Wink
Bular "simple" zatlar! (buffer overflow, race condition, format-string nämedigini bilýäňmi? )
offtopic:
hä ýenede, türkmen cyber hackers team bukylyp gezýär diýsem, biz olar barada zat bilemzok we olar göze görünmeýän diýmek däl...
Agzalaryny, edýän işlerini pikir edişiňizden has gowurak tanaýan!
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Posted: Oct 16, 2006 - 06:45 AM
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bo$ wagtyn kop oydyan, ona muna bir zatlar du$undurjek bolup wagtyny yitirme.
du$unmejek adam name etsenem du$unmez.
indi MC sana
"yonekey ddos" diyipsin welin, ozin bir dushunyanmi?
yada mana terjime edip bersene?
yooo gaty gormek yada gaharlanmak gerek dal,
eysem senin hem atamyrat yaly bo$ wagtyn kop oydyan.
onki asyrda galdy defacer/attacker modasy. gowja owrenip security specialist bolyn son goreli haysy corporation, dowlet edarasy we $m. sizi i$e almaz yada peydaly bolmarsynyz.
bolyada ozuniz gorun. |
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Posted: Oct 16, 2006 - 07:39 AM
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 Brawo Gex
ddos diydin da.... mana hepdalik InfoWorld magazine gelyar (belkam esidensinizdir, famous magazine) + NetworkWorld magazine. Tomustan bu yana hemen hemen her hepde ddos hakda gurrun gidyar.
Sebabi ddos, mcnyn aydisi yali, "yonekey" dal - su wagt bu problema hakda heryerde solutionlar gozlenyar. Sebabi ddos, TCP/IP protocolynyn "handshake" methodyny exploit edyar, yagny her paket ucin jogap iberilyar, we her gelen paket bufferin queuesina goyulyar - we beylelikde serverin rami+cpu messed up bolyar. Gowja settings bilen (bizin ASBHOSTtaky yali), serverin ram+cpu messed up bolanok da, APache gochyar - yagny http handling mechanism. Bulam websahypalary acylmaz edyar, emma serverin butin galan serviceleri bolsa doly run edyar we server down bolanok. Yagny msnin diyisi yali, serveri hack edenok da (hack barde dogry sozem dal, "down" dogry bolar), ddos serveri down edenokda dine apacheni down edyar...
Bu problemany cozmek ucin adamlar "give out big money" - server balancing munyn ucin gowy mysal. Firewallar koplenc ishlanok, sebabi mcnyn gurrun edyan atakasy kicijek ataka, we anti-ddos-firewallar bolsa "gigabits of stream" handle etmek ucin gurulyar...
Yagny, bu diyisi yali "yonekey ddos" dal.. etmek ansat, 100% goranmanyn yoly entak dunyade yok, we hic wagt bolmazda:) sebabi herkim remote servera http conenction edip biler, elbette serverde httpd servici yok bolsa onda basga gurrun.. |
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